tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post651344811836336754..comments2023-10-24T07:26:23.558-07:00Comments on singularity: Surface motion vs. deep ocean currentsCap'n Frankohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03558951624021488338noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-82692512100084616822010-08-07T11:49:54.960-07:002010-08-07T11:49:54.960-07:00Frank,
you certainly don't need my approval. ...Frank, <br />you certainly don't need my approval. just to be clear though, i'm not disapproving. just saying how it works for me. some of it fits my nature; some of it reflects ways i'm re-shaping my nature. <br /><br />i totally understand about being protective of time. i realize it's not an endless resource and i've become much more selective about how i spend a lot of mine. i *love* some of the things you prioritize your time to ~ music, flying, sailing, sharing, giving, oh my! <br /><br />me, i'm cleaning behind our oven today. parts of our kitchen and oven that haven't seen daylight in years. it's not pretty. which explains why i'd rather spend time commenting on posts. ;)lynellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-91109685971159571902010-08-07T10:54:55.452-07:002010-08-07T10:54:55.452-07:00Lynelle, I'm just old and grumpy by nature and...Lynelle, I'm just old and grumpy by nature and very jealous of my time. Obviously, someone hasta spend the effort to interact with those who are curious about unschooling or any subject you're a part of.<br /><br />That "someone" is typically not me. Maybe sometimes but not usually.Cap'n Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558951624021488338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-14724835086484701152010-08-07T01:41:34.298-07:002010-08-07T01:41:34.298-07:00it's nice that nature has many different flavo...it's nice that nature has many different flavors! ;)lynellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-60062166486207043802010-08-07T00:17:03.022-07:002010-08-07T00:17:03.022-07:00Lynelle,
Some people have the patience to respon...Lynelle, <br /><br />Some people have the patience to respond endlessly to people who are discussing unschooling philosophy. <br /><br />I don't often write about unschooling per se and I've never considered myself an apologist for unschooling. Most significantly, I have WAY less patience than most. When someone is (IMO) clearly coming from a philosophical root which is antithetical to mine, I value my time too much to want to waste it on them. <br /><br />If someone has the patience to do so, I'm happy for them and awed by their persistence. It's not in my nature.Cap'n Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558951624021488338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-1235384511840269392010-08-06T20:40:46.774-07:002010-08-06T20:40:46.774-07:00hi Frank,
so be it. for me, it's not necessar...hi Frank,<br />so be it. for me, it's not necessarily about proactively *trying* to convince someone to "convert", as it is about remembering how it feels to have my views, values, and behavior attacked, shamed, criticized, and remembering why i made an intentional decision to try my hardest not to do that with my kids or other people. it's a personal *internal* goal thing for me that happens to also play out externally.<br /><br />we're all at different places in our journeys and even now, there are places i'm more prone to controlling than i'd like to be. (think four teens, a 5 day camping trip, and my car. ack!) it's an ongoing work-in-progress and evolution for me, and i lack the imagination to see why it wouldn't also be that way for other people. <br /><br />in this evolution, if i attach myself to changing people, i *would* be out of time and patience, and i'd be likely to feel frustrated and exhausted. instead, i'm attaching myself to remembering why *i* want an encouraging, respectful, and collaborative style as much as i can manage it. for me, my self, my own reasons.<br /><br />for me, it's a crucial distinction that i'm attached to what this style does for ME. (i'm selfish like that.) within the parameters of time being finite. the times that seed-planting behavior also seems to result in people being receptive to questioning themselves and shifting to more respectful parenting/living is gravy. i like gravy. *especially* if i think it might make kids' lives happier. extra, extra gravy when the adults also see how it benefits them, and the ripples circle wider. of course, no one else needs to think about this or do this my way. (except in my head, where clearly, i'm *right*! for ME.)lynellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-42718478561245423092010-08-06T15:48:21.117-07:002010-08-06T15:48:21.117-07:00of course! because correlation does not necessari...of course! because correlation does not necessarily mean causation. nor does it necessarily mean common or similar premises and beliefs. <br /><br />but sometimes... it does. and in those cases, the common ground might be ripe for planting seeds that enable the person to shift their paradigms closer to ours, and/or vice versa, depending on the topic and our paradigms and principles.<br /><br />and of course, no one is required to plant any seeds. but for me, it's nice to notice when the ground may be fertile and to point out the shared fertile ground, for those times when i do opt to plant seeds.lynellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-59764976791304697882009-08-15T11:14:12.786-07:002009-08-15T11:14:12.786-07:00Hi, Sandra,
Thanks for your comment/addition. Thi...Hi, Sandra,<br /><br />Thanks for your comment/addition. This was just kind of a rant which welled up specifically from a recent discussion with a Libertarian and flowed into years of similar discussions with libertarians, Libertarians, or (pseudo)history buffs who call themselves "Classic Liberals" which actually means "very conservative." Political/philosophical in its origin but applicable to a broad range of experiences. <br /><br />I often have the reverse experience, too. I seem to disagree significantly with someone about a specific, granular subject but discover that, at root, we are pretty congruent.Cap'n Frankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03558951624021488338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26673718.post-4746287659904214562009-08-15T07:44:07.929-07:002009-08-15T07:44:07.929-07:00In my many years in the SCA I was often in leaders...In my many years in the SCA I was often in leadership positions, and confident in my beliefs,and big on virtue and ethics. In my activity as an unschooler helping others hook up with more information about unschooling, I've seen similar behaviors in others around me. I figure it's something about me.<br /><br />People will preface a statement with, "I don't agree with everything you say, but..." and then agree with something. It seems to have something to do with a fear of being sucked into my gravitational force or something (speaking of celestial confusion), or fear of being associated with me, even though they've written a letter to me to agree with an idea, or ask for help or to thank me for something.<br /><br />With me, when I write to people, I assume they know I'm not thinking I agree with everything they think, do or say. My husband, my best friends, my kids--all have ideas and beliefs or prejudices or fears that I don't share. They also have areas of calm and courage I don't have, and so we help each other out in the places where one "gets" something (intellectual or interpersonal) that the other doesn't get.<br /><br />Just more water into the ocean; I might not be thinking anywhere near what you were thinking when you wrote.Sandra Doddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11853107998229753762noreply@blogger.com